What investment fees really cost
Investment fees are charged as a percentage of the balance you hold rather than the gain you made, so they are paid in losing years as well as winning ones, and the money removed stops compounding. One percent a year for 25 years leaves a sum left alone about 22 percent below its fee-free value.
Balance after 10 years
$41,872.85
$12,872.85 of that is interest you did not pay in.
- You put in
- $29,000.00
- Interest earned
- $12,872.85
- Ending balance
- $41,872.85
How often interest is added to the balance.
In short
- An investment fee quoted as a percentage is charged against the balance you hold rather than the gain you made, so the same rate is charged in a year the portfolio loses money as in a year it gains.
- For money left invested throughout, the share a percentage fee removes depends on the fee and the number of years and not on the return earned: 25 years of a 1 percent annual charge leaves a balance about 22 percent below its fee-free value.
- A fee costs more than the payments add up to, because the money it removes stops compounding: $562.50 taken today is $2,176.70 missing from the balance 20 years later if the money would have compounded at 7 percent a year.
- A fund's expense ratio does not include the fund's own trading costs, the fee your platform or custodian charges you, the spread paid on buying and selling, or any advice fee, so the total charged against a portfolio is normally larger than the figure on the fund page.
- The bid-ask spread is a cost paid inside the price rather than billed as a charge, which is why a commission-free trade is not a free trade.
- A fee is worth paying when what it buys is worth more than it costs, measured against the cheapest arrangement that would do the same job, so the useful comparison is net against net rather than fee against nothing.
The fee comes off the balance, not the gain
Two people can hold the same fund and pay very different amounts, and the reason sits in how the bill is written. Almost every investment fee is quoted as a percentage of what you hold, not of what you make.
A fund's ongoing charge accrues out of the fund's assets, usually a slice on each day the fund is valued, so the published price is already net of it and no invoice ever arrives. A platform or adviser fee is normally taken by selling a small piece of the holding, so it shows up as a slightly smaller position rather than as a payment. Either way the amount charged is a fraction of the balance, and the balance does not have to have grown for the fraction to be taken.
That is the whole of the asymmetry. Against a fee of 1 percent of assets, the year's return decides only what share of your gain the fee turns out to be:
| What the holdings return | What 1 percent of assets costs you |
|---|---|
| 10 percent | about a tenth of the gain |
| 7 percent | about a seventh of the gain |
| 3 percent | about a third of the gain |
| 0 percent | the whole cost of a year that produced nothing |
| minus 10 percent | a loss charged on top of a loss |
Performance fees, which take a share of gains above a hurdle, work the other way, and they are the exception. The standard arrangement across funds, platforms and advice is a percentage of assets, charged at the same rate in a bad year as in a good one. The amount is smaller in a bad year only because the balance it is taken from is smaller. That is what makes a weak decade expensive twice over: low returns, and a bill that never noticed.
Why one point compounds into more than a fifth of the balance
A fee costs more than the payments add up to, because the money it removes would otherwise have kept earning. What leaves this year is the payment plus everything that payment would have produced by the end.
The arithmetic is unusually clean. If the holdings grow by in a year and the fee takes a fraction of assets, the balance is multiplied by and then by . Run that for years, call the fee paying balance and the same run without the fee , and every growth term cancels:
The return has dropped out. For a sum left alone, what share of a balance a percentage fee removes depends on the fee and the number of years, and not at all on how markets did. Each share below is measured against the balance the same holdings would have reached with no fee:
| Annual fee | Share of the fee-free balance it removes over 25 years |
|---|---|
| 0.10 percent | 2.5 percent |
| 0.25 percent | 6.1 percent |
| 0.50 percent | 11.8 percent |
| 0.75 percent | 17.2 percent |
| 1.00 percent | 22.2 percent |
| 2.00 percent | 39.7 percent |
Two qualifications keep those figures honest. Money paid in later has spent fewer years being charged, so a saver contributing monthly gives up less than the table shows: in the worked examples below, an extra point of annual cost takes about 18 percent of the balance the cheaper arrangement reached, rather than the 22 percent in the table. And subtracting the fee from the return, running 7 percent as 5.75 percent, is a quick approximation rather than the exact charge: the exact figure multiplies by and then by , which is lower by , so the shortcut understates the cost a little. The examples below use it, so they read gently. The engine underneath is the one described in how compound interest works, pointed the other way.
The whole bill, line by line
The fund charge is the figure everyone quotes and it is one line of several. A realistic bill has up to six, and they are charged against the same money.
- The fund's ongoing charge. Management, administration and custody inside the fund, called an expense ratio in the United States and an ongoing charges figure across much of Europe. It accrues daily out of fund assets, which is why it never appears as a transaction on a statement.
- The platform, custody or wrapper fee. Charged by whoever holds the account, as a percentage of assets, a flat annual amount, or a tiered scale that sometimes caps. On a portfolio of cheap trackers this line is often larger than the fund charge.
- Dealing charges. A commission for each trade, a currency conversion charge on foreign holdings, and, in some countries, a transaction tax on purchases.
- The [bid-ask spread](/definitions/bid-ask-spread). Paid inside the price rather than billed, by you when you trade and by the fund when it trades.
- Advice. An ongoing percentage of assets, a flat retainer, an hourly rate or a fee for a piece of work, sometimes with an initial charge on money as it goes in. Sales loads and exit charges belong on this line too.
- Performance fees. A share of gains above a stated hurdle, charged on top of the ongoing charge. Read the hurdle, and read whether a high-water mark applies, because together they decide when the fee restarts after a bad run.
Tax is not a fee and behaves like one in a taxable account: how much a portfolio loses to tax as it runs depends on turnover, on the account type and on where you are taxed, so it belongs in the total as an estimate against your own rules rather than as a published figure.
The costs that never appear on the statement
Two costs sit outside every fee table and get paid anyway.
The first is the spread. Every quoted market has a price you can buy at and a lower price you can sell at, and the gap between them is a cost paid inside the price. Buy a holding and sell it later and you have paid all of it. A commission-free trade is not a free trade: it is a trade whose cost is in the spread rather than on the contract note, and on a thinly traded holding the spread can be many times what a commission ever was. A spread of 0.3 percent, paid in full across a purchase and a later sale, costs as much as three years of a fund charging 0.1 percent a year, though it lands at once rather than spread over those years.
The second is what the fund itself trades. A fund pays commissions, spreads and the price impact of its own orders, and none of that sits inside the expense ratio, which covers running the fund rather than dealing inside it. Those costs scale with turnover. A fund replacing most of its portfolio each year pays them each year and reports the result only as a slightly lower return, while a tracker that mostly trades when its index changes pays far less, though not nothing. Some disclosure regimes require these transaction costs to be published as their own figure, and where yours does not, the fund's published turnover is the best signal available for the line that is missing.
Both costs reward patience for a mechanical reason rather than a moral one: they are charged per transaction, so the bill is the cost of a trade multiplied by the number of trades. That is not an argument for holding a position you have decided against. It is an argument for pricing a switch before making it, because switching is never free.
What a fee has to deliver to be worth paying
A fee is not automatically bad. It is a price, and the question is what it buys.
Frame it as you would any purchase: not fee against zero, but net against net. The comparison that decides anything is the outcome after all costs of the arrangement in front of you, against the same figure for the cheapest arrangement that would do the same job. Paying nothing is rarely on the menu, because a self-managed portfolio of trackers usually carries a fund charge, often a platform or custody fee, and the spreads it pays to trade.
That framing produces a break-even you can say out loud. An arrangement costing one percentage point a year more than the alternative has to earn about one percentage point a year more before costs, or deliver its equivalent in something else you value, just to draw level after costs. Over the 25 years in the examples below, that one point is the difference between $502,646.29 and $409,866.80 on identical deposits and identical gross returns.
The equivalent in something else is real and harder to measure. Advice can be worth more than it charges when it stops a portfolio being sold in a drawdown, fixes the amount being saved, places the right assets in the right accounts under local tax rules, or replaces a concentrated position with a diversified one. It is worth less than it charges when the result is a model portfolio a cheap tracker would have matched, which is the arithmetic set out in index funds against active management.
The asymmetry to hold on to is certainty. The cost is contractual, known in advance, and charged every year. The benefit is a forecast. That does not make a fee a bad deal, but it does mean the two sides of the comparison are not known to the same standard.
Getting to one number you can compare
Building the all-in figure is short work, and it decides the outcome.
- Start with the ongoing charge on each fund, weighted by how much of each you hold.
- Add the platform or custody fee that applies at your balance. A flat fee becomes a percentage when you divide it by the balance, which is the only way to compare the two.
- Add any ongoing advice fee.
- Keep one-off costs in a separate column: dealing commissions, currency conversion, entry and exit charges, and the spread crossed on each trade. They are charged per transaction rather than per year, so they only become an annual figure once you decide how often you trade.
Where each figure is published depends on where you are: the fund document carries the ongoing charge, the provider's charging schedule the platform fee, and an advice agreement the advice fee. Ask for the total as a percentage of your balance and as an amount in money: the two land differently.
Then re-check the shape as the balance changes. A percentage fee rises with the balance whether or not the work behind it grows, while a flat fee shrinks as a percentage as the balance grows, so the cheaper structure at one size is often the dearer one at another. A capped platform scale crosses over at a balance you find by dividing the cap by the percentage.
Finally, run it. Put your horizon into the compound interest calculator at the top of this page, once at the gross return and once at the gross return minus your total cost, and read the two ending balances side by side. Inflation deserves the same treatment, and the real return calculator does that half. This page is educational material about how costs behave, not financial advice about any particular fund, platform or adviser.
Worked examples
Twenty-five years with no costs at all
You start with $50,000, add $300 at the end of every month for 25 years, and the holdings return 7 percent a year, credited monthly. Charge nothing at all. What do the holdings produce?
- The period rate is , which is a repeating decimal, so carry the fraction rather than a rounded monthly rate. The number of periods is .
- Grow the opening amount: , which is $286,270.91.
- Grow the deposits: , which is $243,021.51.
- Add the two parts, rounding once at the end, then count what went in: $140,000.
The holdings produce $529,292.42, of which $389,292.42 is investment return on the $140,000 paid in. Nobody actually receives this number, because something always charges something. It is the reference point the next two examples are measured against.
The same money at 0.25 percent all in
Same $50,000, same $300 a month, same 25 years, same 7 percent before costs. A tracker charging 0.10 percent sits on a platform charging 0.15 percent, so 0.25 percent a year comes off and about 6.75 percent reaches you.
- Take the cost off the return: 7 percent minus 0.25 percent leaves 6.75 percent, so the period rate is across the same 300 periods.
- The growth factor falls from 5.725418 to .
- Grow the opening amount: , which is $269,022.40.
- Grow the deposits: , which is $233,623.89.
- You still paid in $140,000, exactly as before.
The balance is $502,646.29, of which $362,646.29 is return after costs. A quarter of a percentage point, charged for 25 years, cost about 5 percent of the $529,292.42 the same holdings reached with nothing charged, and about 7 percent of the return they produced. None of it arrived as a bill.
The same money at 1.25 percent all in
Same $50,000, same $300 a month, same 25 years, same 7 percent before costs. This time an actively managed fund charging 0.60 percent sits on a platform charging 0.25 percent, with an ongoing advice fee of 0.40 percent, so 1.25 percent a year comes off and about 5.75 percent reaches you.
- The rate is now 5.75 percent, so the period rate is across the same 300 periods.
- The growth factor is , against 5.725418 with no costs at all.
- Grow the opening amount: , which is $209,786.42.
- Grow the deposits: , which is $200,080.38.
- The amount paid in has not changed: $140,000.
The balance is $409,866.80, of which $269,866.80 is return. Against the cheaper arrangement's $502,646.29, one extra percentage point of annual cost took about 18 percent of that larger balance, and the gap between the two is about two thirds of everything paid in. That is not a verdict on the more expensive arrangement. It is the amount that arrangement has to be worth.
The fee in a year the market falls
The $50,000 opening balance goes through a year in which the holdings lose 10 percent, leaving $45,000 before costs, and the arrangement charges 1.25 percent of assets. What is left?
- The fee does not ask what the market did. It is 1.25 percent of the balance, so the balance is multiplied by .
- Apply that to the $45,000 still there: .
- A fee of 1.25 percent charged on assets and nothing else is a return of minus 1.25 percent, which is how the check below runs it.
The year ends at $44,437.50. The fee took $562.50 out of a portfolio that had just lost money, and it will be charged again next year whatever happens next. In a flat or falling year the entire cost of the arrangement comes out of capital, which is the part a percentage of assets hides.
What one year's fee would have become
Take the $562.50 that fee removed and ask the other question: what would it have been worth if it had stayed in the portfolio for another 20 years at 7 percent a year?
- Nothing is added, so only one term applies: .
- Repeated multiplication gives .
- So .
It would have become $2,176.70, of which $1,614.20 is growth the portfolio never sees, both in the money of that twentieth year rather than in today's. That is the second half of what a fee costs: the payment, and then everything the payment would have earned. Compound it at the return after costs instead of the gross return and the figure is smaller, and the shape is identical. It is also why the same percentage hurts most on the money charged earliest.
Common questions
Do I pay a fund's fee in a year when the fund loses money?
Yes. A fund's ongoing charge is a percentage of assets, accrued out of the fund's own assets on each day it is valued, so it is taken whether the price rose or fell. The same holds for a platform fee or an ongoing advice fee charged as a percentage of the balance. Performance fees are the exception, since they take a share of gains above a hurdle, though the ongoing charge underneath one is usually still payable. A falling year is charged twice: once by the market, once by the arrangement.
How do I work out what I am paying in total?
Take the ongoing charge for each fund from its fund document, weighted by how much of each you hold, then add the platform or custody fee from the provider's charging schedule and any ongoing advice fee from the advice agreement. Keep one-off costs in a separate column: dealing commissions, currency conversion, entry and exit charges, and the spread crossed on each trade. Naming differs by country, expense ratio in the United States and ongoing charges figure across much of Europe, and neither includes what the fund pays to trade inside the portfolio. Some disclosure regimes publish that transaction cost as its own figure; where yours does not, the fund's turnover is the best signal available for it.
Is the cheapest option always the right one?
No, and nothing on this page says so. Cost is simply the part of the outcome that can be read in advance, which is why it is worth measuring at all. The test is what an arrangement delivers after its costs, set against the cheapest arrangement that would do the same job: a dearer fund can earn its keep by giving an exposure the cheap one does not, and advice can be worth more than it charges when it changes what actually happens to the money. What does not survive the arithmetic is paying an active price for an index outcome. This is educational material, not financial advice.
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